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Topic: 2QB, 3RB, 3WR
theFULLeffect_156712
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Post Date: 08/13/12 07:57
One of my leagues this year will be a 12 team league that starts 2QB, 3RB, 3WR, TE, K, DST.



I really would like to make sure I have 2 good/elite QBs, but with the additional depth required at RB and WR I'm worried that going QB/QB in the first two rounds will kill the rest of my team.



12 x 2 means that in a best case scenario one person will be starting the 24th best quarter back, but 12 x 3 means that the 36th best RB will be started!



Any advice or past experience you can provide would be appreciated.
 Throwball Heroes_118522
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Post Date: 08/13/12 08:07
If you can start 2 QBs, I believe you need to draft 2 QBs to start. These players will score you the most points. I agree you won't get the top tier RB or WRs, but WRs are deep this year and picking them up later in the draft doesn't concern me.

RBs will be more challenging, especially in a 12-team league having to start 3. Again, I go back to the fact you must start 2 QB, this means you will be able to find lower tiered RBs to fill those 3 positions. If you do you preparation, you should be able to get 3 backs who will put up some good numbers all year long.

We have played 2 QB league for 29 years now and it's only been recently we have seen owners go back to back QB to start the draft, but those picks have paid off and we have seen owners win this strategy. Before this year I was a fan of drafting a balanced team, usually starting RB/QB/WR in some order through 3 rounds. The closer I examine the numbers and drafts of the past few years, the trend is clear that QBs will lead the way and having 2 good starters has proven to show winning results.

Looking at ADP right now, around 30th to 50th for RBs gives you Ahmad Bradshaw, Doug Martin, Michael Turner, Frank Gore, BGE, Reggie Bush, Willis McGahee.
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theFULLeffect_156712
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Post Date: 08/13/12 08:16
If QB's seem to be going slowly and I feel like I can get a guy like Matt Ryan (the last of the good QB's in my opinion) in round 3, would it be wise to pass on a Romo or Peyton to get a RB that I like?



I agree, with the problems getting quality qb's and rb's, I don't see myself picking any other position until the 6th or 7th round.
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Post Date: 08/13/12 08:22
I should have prefaced my comments by saying I know the owners tendancies in my league. We have many who have been together since the beginning and we know how they draft. Last year we say 9 QBs done in 2 rounds. I suspect we could see 9-10 gone this year. If that is the case, it will free up the RBs in the first few rounds. That could change a given strategy and have an owner rethink their draft on the fly. Stay flexible and see how it pans out.

I am planning on QB/QB, not won't hesitate to change my strategy if I don't see see value at the QB position when it rolls around to me. I doubt those owners who drafted 1 or 2 QBs early will even think about that position again in the draft, so it would free up some of the lower tiered QBs.
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Post Date: 08/13/12 15:36
I would take QB- RB in the first two rounds. Then you can pick up Ryan( who I really like) or even Carson Palmer, who might be a big sleeper this year in Oakland.

I to play in a league just like yours. I don't like Romo this year at all. His receivers are always hurt and the Cowboys are having tremendous injury issues on the offensive line right now.

I would stay away from him if you can.


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Post Date: 08/13/12 16:31
Thought I was the only knuckle head in 2QB start league- 6 team league ( everybodys stacked with talent) no PPR standard scoring 2 Flex spots (WR RB or TE)- here is my starter team - drafted third so Brees Brady were already gone- what do you think

QBs- P Manning C Newton (Josh Freeman)

WR- Calvin Johnson Jordy Nelson (P Harvin, Dez Bryant, Vincent Jackon backup)

RB R Matthews Fred Jackson (Trent Richardson, Ahmad Bradshaw Stevan Ridley backup)

TE J Witten

D Packers

K N Rackers
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Post Date: 08/14/12 08:37
For FULL effect, this is where Tiering and seeing where the values are dropping off at each position is most critical. In a 12 team league starting 2 QB's (what do you guys do for bye weeks? There will be only 8 starting QB's after each team has their 2), it becomes more important in my opinion to get two excellent starting QB's as they usually score the most points. I could see going QB/QB in rds 1 and 2 (depending on who's available when your picks come up).



For michaelG, RB's appear to be the weakest link here. Mathews is an injury question mark, Richardson is too, along with being a rookie on a team with suspect passing attack. Like F-Jax a lot to repeat last season's success though, and also think Brdashaw could be strong. Ridley is a real wild card but I like him a bit more than most analysts.
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Post Date: 08/30/12 13:15
Thanks for the pre-draft advice everyone. The draft has been completed and, all things considered, I like my team. The scoring rules were changed so it's now 1pt/20yrds rush & rec, 1pt/25yrds return, and throwing TD's are worth 6. There are also only 4 bench spots, so bye weeks and depth are nearly impossible to manage.



Going into it, I wanted a top 8 pick so I would end up with a top 5 QB or top 3 RB. That did not happen - I picked 12/12.

Here are my picks, tell me how I did:

12. Phillip Rivers (in my top 10 QB's, Newton, Eli, Stafford, etc were picked)

13. Matt Ryan (also in my top 10)

36. Fred Jackson (high upside, all of my 1st and 2nd tier RB's were long gone)

37. Ryan Mathews (I love this pick at 37 overall. Should give me another scorer once he gets back on the field)

60. Doug Martin (I was considering him at 37, so was thrilled with this pick!)

61. Dez Bryant (good value, plus return yrds.)

84. Antonio Brown (glad I waited to draft receivers)

85. DeSean Jackson (inconsistant, but could win some weeks for me)

108. Cedric Benson (4th RB w/ TD potential since yrds don't score as much)

109. Torrey Smith (not a fan of his, but in case I'm wrong, I have another starting WR

132. Jacob Tamme (this was what I hoped for. my next option would have been Olsen)

133. Kenny Britt (along with Mathews, I should be able to infuse some talent into my roster once the season gets going.)

156. Ronnie Brown (handcuff)

157. Cardinals DST (slim pickings)

180. Lawrence Tynes (3 people shockingly had multiple kickers)



So as long as my two QB's stay healthy and have slightly better than last year type of years, I believe my roster is not spectacular, but is very solid and deep considering my draft position. I'm basically conceding week 7, but should be strong all other weeks.

Thoughts? Suggestions for next time?
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Post Date: 08/30/12 15:04
Not a Mathews fan, don't think he can stay healthy and he is starting off on the wrong foot with an injury that will side him longer than anticipated. At least you have Brown. Outside of that pick and the headcase that is Kenny Britt, I like you team. You will get Britt back in Week 2 vs SDG. I think you did well grabbing Martin and Benson. Tamme might surprise in DEN with Manning, we will have to wait and see. Nice job.
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Post Date: 08/30/12 16:43
I'm not a Mathews fan either, so I'm making myself believe. Honestly, I just hated all my choices at running back so much that I took the highest upside guys. I could have also grabbed McGahee, Gore, or Turner but they have less of a chance at being a top 7 back. I could actually see that from Mathews or Jackson. If I hadn't landed Antonio Brown and Doug Martin, I'd be very down on this team.
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