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Topic: Tiering Issues
Fumanaz_109000
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Post Date: 08/19/12 14:07
I am trying to wrap I head around this new strategy. I understand each level there is a possible FP for those players in each tier. What I can't figure out (which I'm sure is easy) what points to use for each tier. What to base it off. The last 3 years, 2 years, or last year only? I don't feel good about pulling the past FP forward. How do you apply FP to rookies?

QB tier1 = ?

RB tier 1 = ?

WR tier 1 = ?

Then the next tier down will be, at least I think it will, a subtracted value from the tier above it. HELP! Please
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Post Date: 08/19/12 16:21
I think you are overthinking this. The tiering sheets I use are generatred in the TOOLS section, which also provides a total fantasy points (projected) and the tiers. Sounds like you are trying to work out the VDB using past years points. Just stick your scoring into the tools, run the program and the work is done for you.
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Post Date: 08/19/12 16:40
I agree with Throwball. Don't overthink it. There are many factors that go into the ratings which your tiers provide.Schedule strength, last years stats, personnel changes, and other things factor into it. But these are FFS rankings.


I don't agree with the ratings of some of the players listed on the VBD, but I can tell you that this draftboard is amongst the leaders that I have used. In fact, it's the most accurate I have ever used during my drafts and I have been playin along time.WHenever I don't agree with a tier rated player ranking, I just chose another player.

Just have a good idea of what players you want to draft and what players you want to bypass. For instance, there is no way I would ever either Cardinal QB, even if I need a back-up QB.

I also would never touch Ryan Mathews now that he is recovering from a fracture and a surgery. People compare his injury to Colston's last year. Well Colston did not have surgery to repair it and Mathews is supposed to carry the ball 200 plus times.


Rely on the tier drafting. You can pick any player in that tier.


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Post Date: 08/19/12 20:04
Thanks, I visited the Draft Analyzer again and saw the tiering I was asking about. I have it steup for my drafts this coming weekend. One live, two paid w/ online draft.

I was not trying to over think this, just understand what Russ wrote in the eBook. It makes sure, but I'm not sure how he figured in the points. Fm James's post I see there are many other factors that are not noted in the eBook.

Later!
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Post Date: 08/19/12 20:26
I think the big thing here is that you have to keep up on the injury news and camp battles the most to determine final rankings before you draft. That can change everything.


It changes day to day until pre-season.


Tiering is the best way to draft in my opinion.



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Post Date: 08/20/12 00:49
"Everone has a plan, until they get punched in the head." --Mike Tyson



Tiers are great when the draft punches you. I like using tiers, but I think its value is really shown in the later rounds. Tiering becomes exponentially more important and useful as the draft progresses into the late rounds when you have no idea who to pick. It also is great for that point when the upper-middle tier pool at each position starts to dwindle and you have significant dropoffs in talent.



Sometimes in a league like on yahoo or ESPN or something, the players are ranked (for those who auto-draft). Even if no one is auto-drafting it still shows a default value and you must take this into consideration too-- people see that ranking and take guys earlier/later than they should.



Sproles is a good example in one of my yahoo leagues (I should mention that yahoo rankings are non-PPR and mine is a PPR league, but it's just an example). He's ranked as the 19th best RB by yahoo, but my FFS sheets have him as the 6th best RB, tiered with Forte and right behind MJD and CJ. Knowing that Forte, MJD, and CJ are ranked much higher than Sproles by yahoo, you can easily see that Sproles is a tremendous value if he slips to the 3rd or 4th round. My point is that you can use tiering to find value and this gets easier as the draft progresses and the player pool dries up. As long as you don't follow them blindly, you'll be fine.



That also means moving guys up or down the tiers as you see fit. I agree with the others here, FFS sheets have been the best I've used, but I still will make tweaks and adjustments to them pre-draft. Hope that helps, good luck!
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Post Date: 08/20/12 16:00
YEA THAT HELPS GREATLY!!!!!

Be flexible!

Finally got to see someone else's option vs Ghostbuster and TBH!

JK guys, had to poke at ya. Much LoVe!
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